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Learning From Others

Aug 10, 2020

Today's guest is a speaker and motivational expert who wakes up every day with one mission; to impact the lives of entrepreneurs and business owners across the world.

Not only does he coach on mindset, but he lives it. Having been in the army and transitioning back to civilian life, he went through his own ups and downs. Now he can bring real-life experience to those that listen to his story.

Here to help you master self-doubt and accomplish what you want out of life, please welcome Nate Bailey.

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Hey Bailey everybody. What's up, man? Not much, man. How are, how are you? Good. Thanks for jumping on learning from others. I appreciate the chance to kind of flip the mic. You know, you're kind enough to have me on your podcast and, and now we're doing the other side of things. So, um, let's, let's just start with the usual, you know, I like to ask my guests two questions.

First one is what are you good at? And what are we going to be learning from you today? Yeah. Okay. Um, yeah, I just got prompted with this, but that's all right. I mean, that's what I do. So, uh, it should be pretty easy, but, um, I'm a coach, so I I'm really good at helping people with their mindset and getting them to really get into action.

That's required to, to get what they want inside of their life, as well as, um, you know, really like leadership. Type trainings and teachings, teamwork, communication, um, perseverance preparation, execution, and really all of that, primarily through experiential training is what I'm really good at. Like, um, in-person physical type.

Uh, experiences, not in a classroom, really getting them to kind of get out of their box and, and really to push them and expose some things that they've had going on in their life and getting them to work together with some complete strangers coming together as a team, and really getting them to extract what they're learning.

In those experiences so that they can bring those home and apply them into their life. Okay, cool. So I got a lot of things I want to dive into on that, but, um, before we do, uh, the second question I like to ask, uh, you can answer it as serious or as a non serious as you want, but, uh, opposite. What are you not so good at?

Yeah, that's a man. I'm sure. There's a lot of things that I'm not so good at. And, uh, you know, what's coming to mind right now might be like, I have two daughters and, uh, I definitely am not very good at, uh, braiding their hair, taking care of some things like that. But, uh, I do my best, but they, they let me know about it.

Right. So how old are your daughters? Um, 12. So, yeah, she doesn't even let me come close to her hair right now, but the. The other is a 10, just turned 10. So they just turned 12, 12, and just turned 10. Yeah, my youngest, I have a daughter. She's two. She'll be, she'll be three here pretty soon. So yeah, like I'm, I'm like waiting for that.

I'm not there yet, but I'm waiting for the like, Hey, let's do this girl thing, dad, and don't screw it up. Yeah, absolutely. That's great though. Well, alright, so a couple things, when you were telling us, you know, what you are good at a couple of things kind of stood out. The first area I'll start is you had mentioned, I think the phrase you used was like experiential coaching.

So can you talk more about that phrase and, um, like give us maybe some examples of what you bring your groups into doing. Yeah, you bet. So, uh, one of the events we have is what we call immersion. And so we have women that will cut like a group of women that will come in or a group of men. And, um, we'll take them, we'll take them to the beach and we'll take them to kind of a Hill or a mountain or we'll take them outside.

And, uh, We'll put them through a lot of different physical evolutions. We'll kind of put a little pressure on them, right? Cause in life like there's pressure and stresses on us all the time, all around. And so we kind of take that into the physical realm and we turn that pressure and intensity through physical evolutions and hard work.

And, and we, um, you know, we'll assign people and put them into leadership roles. Well, we'll give them like, uh, we'll put time, time caps on things, which also adds a little bit of pressure, um, or we'll let them flail a little bit. And, but, but it's, so it's not just to push them and like beat them down. It's all with a purpose.

Right. It's all, um, to show them how certain things. That they're doing right there in front of us, might be showing up in other areas of their life and getting them to really open their eyes to a lot of that. And then just to see the evolution from the beginning. To, you know, kind of the end where you can see him, like, man, how, how, how much they've learned, how much have you grown, how much quicker they, they move, how much better they communicate and work together as a team?

Uh, some of the things that were maybe massively getting in the way for, for them on day one hour, one, um, on the last day, um, aren't an issue anymore. So yeah, we'll put them in the ocean or we're all around in the sand and wet Sandy uncomfortable. Um, Because like, I'm just a firm believer that there are massive, like push inside of the physical performance.

Like there's so much overflow. It's like the key that drives everything else. And, uh, and overflows on it can be applied into all the other areas of your life. How long of stretches of time are we talking when you're, you know, bringing him down to the beach and doing all these things and getting them uncomfortable.

Yeah. So for that program, it's really only a few hours a day. Um, it probably feels a little bit longer or for them, but, um, we really only go a few hours a day. I have another championship leadership or our, uh, experience coming up and to may and in June and that's 24 hours. So that's going to be much, it's going to be kind of that on steroids, right.

Um, But again, you know, so yeah, there'll be up for 24 hours long and they won't go to sleep, but we'll give them, we'll give them breaks and rest periods and a lot of ton of teaching as well inside of that. Um, so yeah, we'll do anything from a few hours to 24 hours. Are you like the show floor chauffer.

And are you like rolling up and kicking them out of bed? I can't. What point, how much time do they got before they open their eyes and then like, you're there. Well for the 24 hour experience, they'll, they'll just, they will like show up and report themselves and then we'll take them from there. But the emergent experience is a little bit different.

Cause they'll come the kind of, they get to around four o'clock that first day. And, and we kinda, you know, We poured the pressure on really hard in the beginning. And then as the days go on and you start to kind of lighten up and loosen up and, uh, and, and it becomes more fun. It's just like kind of a progression.

Right. Um, so, so yeah, at the immersion experience, often times we will start. The first night, we'll take them to the beach. They'll get done late and then they'll get just not that much time to sleep. And then they get to come back pretty early in the morning. So I'm not knocking on their doors, but we, we do have them.

Yeah. Pretty early. Yeah. How about how big of groups or do these tend to average? Average is probably, um, 10 to 12 for the immersion we've had up to 19. We've had, you know, eight to, but on average, probably around 10 to 12, um, with the 24 hour event, that's. That's a little bit bigger, meant about 20 people.

Okay. Alright. So you got these, you got these 10 people, and then you had mentioned that at some point, you kind of say like, all right, you're the leader of this group and just kind of let them experience. Do you have like a strategic mindset where you is picking the leader random? Or do you identify somebody that has a certain characteristic and then you're like, they're going to be the leader and there's a reason why.

Well off the top at first, we'll always be like, Hey, give me a leader. And, and, and I already know that no, one's going to step forward because that's just like, no one wants to, it's kind of scary. Especially in the beginning of like a leader, like someone else stepped forward. So they're all kind of like looking up in the air I'm to call them.

And so we. Well, I always use that as a teachable moment. Like, why wouldn't you step forward to lead? Like, that's why you guys are here to be a leader. And, um, and then by the end, you know, so as we go after, I give them that little teaching moment, typically everyone's stepping forward now. Right. And yeah, but there is definite times where I'm strategically picking certain people out, depending on maybe how they're performing.

You know, if I can tell that they're kind of trying to hide, like, um, yeah. Yeah. What, so how did you get into this world to begin with? Well, I mean, I got into the coaching world really. Uh, uh, started when I, when I first invested in myself and, and, and, uh, and hired a coach, right. To help with some things in my life, and then realize that there was this world out there called coaching.

I didn't even realize it was really there or that it was necessarily even an opportunity. Uh, and so that was. And then from there working on myself, investing on myself, I was like, yeah, this is what I want to do. Right. And a lot of experiences leading up to that really, as I look back now, make sense.

Right. I've always, I was an officer in the army as platoon leader. Um, I was, uh, you know, about high school. In college football coach, um, uh, you know, I've always gravitated towards leadership positions in the different industry associations that I've been a part of a was a teacher, you know, so I've, I've always gravitated towards being a leader and a coach and a mentor and wanting to impact people.

And so then I went and yeah, I invested in myself, get some coaching for myself and then realized, Hey, this is something I want to do. And that's ultimately what led me to doing what I am today. So it sounds like you kind of already had that experience, like you said, he didn't know that was a thing. And so going through the process of it yourself, you're like, Oh, okay.

Like now that I get this, uh, in how I can package these experiences and these tools to help other people, I already have those experiences, but now I know how to bundle them. And then, then you can bring them towards the people. Yeah. So I, I went, you know, there are similar events out there. And so again, I love to push myself physically because I know what the benefits are.

I ran a hundred miles. I did the SEALFIT Kokoro, which was a 52 hour event led by Navy seals. Um, so I've done some extreme type events like this. And so I'm kind of taking my experiences from personally going through it and then the coaching experiences. Yeah. I've taken a molded, some of that into what we do.

And then all of that's culminating now to, to this 24 hour experience that I'm, that I'm putting out. So I'm constantly just like everyone, right? You go through life, you have experiences, you kind of take things from different people in different places and, you know, ultimately package it, bundle it into something of your own.

Yeah. What, so you say that you've gone through all these different things and then you hired a coach herself. So is there like an, a, an early version Nate, that you look back on now and, and, and you could comment on who Nate was before versus who he is now. Yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah. You bet. Um, I was, you know, I always kind of go back to.

When I got deployed to Kuwait as a team leader, I was married at the time. Um, and still am, but, um, was just married. Didn't have any kids at the time in 2005 and was deployed for 15 months was put my business on hold. I was in the insurance business at the time, kind of. I was in the, in the insurance business for probably just a little bit over a year at the time.

Well, my business on hold got deployed, uh, left my wife home to have to take care of everything and keep everything go on. And then it kind of came back. And really from there, you know, just looking back, if I could tell myself like, uh, What to do different, right? I would, I would be less selfish, much less selfish and, uh, and, and would have transitioned home much differently.

Um, but yeah, there was just, you know, a lot of issues inside of a marriage that really were created through myself. Then we have kids and that just magnifies the problems that we already had. It didn't didn't solve them. Um, yeah. And then, you know, kind of let my body go focusing on the businesses and spending more time in the businesses because.

You know, I didn't want to be home. Cause there was a lot of issues going on and it was just kind of a mass from the outside looking in, maybe looked like we had a nice life, but it really wasn't at all what I wanted. I know it wasn't at all what my wife thought. And again, I didn't seek the coaching out, but it just kinda came to me.

Right. Like I just ran across the, uh, this program and. Yeah, the marketing was awesome and just sucked me in and yeah, that's what it's supposed to do. Right. That's what it was. It was a great job. Suck me in. And so from there, I really, like I said, just focused on myself, which I think all great leaders need to do as well.

Lead yourself first, before you go and attempt to lead someone else. And so, um, yeah, just all areas like out of weight, really, you know, there was one day I leaned over to tie my shoes and I was out of breath and I was like, I have never experienced that. And I was like almost 300 pounds. I'm like, what the heck?

Because you have this image of yourself of like still being the college athlete and the college football player. But I was like nowhere near that. Right. And so, and then. Yeah, just not showing up as a father, how I wanted to, or as a husband, um, I had a few businesses and kind of successful, but nothing not killing it anywhere.

And just, just like, man, this has gotta be a different way to do these things. I've tried long enough to figure it out on my own and it wasn't successful. So that's kind of where I was at before all of this today, you know where I'm at today, it was much different place for sure. Yeah. You know, uh, the kind of that last thing you talked about, let's touch.

I found that a little bit where you're like, you know, I had some moderate success in here and here and here, and that's one thing that I get a lot of my entrepreneur contexts come to being, you know, and they may be one level beyond your comment where they have, they are killing it, but they're just doing a cross.

Tons of things and almost every single one of them are like, this is just too much, I'm juggling too much. And so can you maybe comment on that where you were like you started to get to was, you know, this is too much, even though it's decent and I'm comfortable, like, was there a point where you're just, like you said, there's gotta be something different and then you said I'm going to, I'm going to be better at less things and do those less things better instead of just like stretching myself out as you have that clear conversation with yourself.

Yeah, definitely. I mean, I owned to, at the time I owned a CrossFit gym, I owned a Sharon's brokerage and Ellen, you know, probably like 10 different investment properties at the time too. So I'm kind of like juggling and managing all of those. And not again, not doing any of them super well, not, not like.

Horrible, but just not to, to the standard, to the level that I would want. Right. And so, yeah, a big piece of that was cutting out the CrossFit gym and just realizing that like, Hey. It's okay. Yeah. You got to let go of this. Yeah. Consuming a ton of time from my family and it wasn't an analyst, so scattered and stretched them.

And I wasn't really able to focus and build it to where, what I could have if it was the only thing I was doing. And so, yeah, to your point, and I think this was kind of some of the coaching I was getting at the time, she was like, You know, what do you want, what do you want to do? And, and, uh, you know, you get to kind of choose and focus on ones that you can be really good at it.

And so, because of where I was at in the time that I had in the insurance agency brokerage at the time, that's the one I ultimately, you know, I've always kept the Wrightsville investment properties. Um, because once we get, I get those to a certain point. They don't require a lot of time, but I did get rid of the CrossFit gym and really did focus on my insurance brokerage.

And, and really I saw like I did really build it up quite quickly. Yeah. When I really put that time, energy and focus into it. And I've since sold that I sold that a few years ago, to be honest today. Um, which is full time coach. So, yeah, so you've been through the whole thing or largely similar things. I imagine what people come to you, you know, the situations that they come to you and where they want to, they want to focus better.

They want to accomplish greater things. And so like, you've, you've walked that path. So being able to see that clear before and after, is there like a common denominator of what holds people back that you just see over and over and over? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, everyone is a little bit different, but, but yes, definitely.

I mean, it's, it's really is just. It's a lot of mindset stuff. It's just a lot. I like stories that they have that really hold them back from living the life that they want, or they just don't know any different. Like, that was a big thing from me. Like I kinda knew that there had to be a different way, but I started to question if there really was, if it was really possible, like, I was really starting to question that, like maybe it was just, and, uh, and thank God that I did come across.

The message when I did the see that there was, but, but yeah, a lot of people they get in, they get comfortable in a place that they see a little bit of success, and then you just start to kind of lose that fire that drive and get comfortable and, and, um, and, uh, and in stock. And that's where they just feel.

Again, a lot of those folks are just like, man, this is, this is this. It really is. This all there is like, you know, they have, I think we all have that inner. Drive or purpose inside of us. It's telling us that I know we were, I was created for more than this, but, um, they just don't know how to get there and get through it.

So the immersion experience really does. It's it's a great. What we do probably better than anything through that is really just wake people up. Right. Just like wake them up to, Hey, you can go out and, and it really, you're not far away. And there's just a few shifts and tweaks and, and, uh, so yeah, that's the biggest thing.

Yeah. So when people come and they, and they do your experiences is when they're done and like, you were just commenting, you know, Hey, I'm not too far away. And it's just a couple of shifts. Like, what are those things that people come out and they're like, Oh, that, that thing is now attainable. Like, I imagine that most people come through and it's not like I want to make a million dollars.

I want a mansion, but it's more like personal things, you know, maybe indirectly we'll bring those materialistic things that like, when people finish one of your experience and they go, I feel better. Like, what are they feeling better about. Um, well, they, I mean, they realize that they, they can do way more and they realize that like, um, there's in a lot of this does happen in these physical experiences.

Cause we do, uh, plenty of conversation and talk inside of a classroom as well. But a lot of the breakthroughs really do come through the, the physical piece where they're like a light comes on and they're just like, Holy cows. Like, I'm totally doing this and in my life, you know, maybe it's like, they're not stepping up and leading there.

They are waiting for everybody else to kind of do it or they're trying, or they're going ahead of everyone else and just trying to do everything on their own because they're not trusting anyone else to do it. And, uh, And so they're really self sabotaging their world, but they don't, they don't know it.

And then, and then when we help them to see that they're like, wow, like, yeah. And so it's, it's, it's profound shifts, but they're really kind of simple, right? It's always easier to see what's wrong with somebody else in their life, uh, when from the outside looking in, but you can't see it for yourself.

Right. And, um, and so that's what a lot of it is, is just. Kind of remembering who they are or rediscovering that passion and that purpose and that drive that they've lost cost and showing them, you know, how to, how to access it again. You know, this is just, it is hard. It is hard to explain because it is such an experience that you have to go through to figure it, to find it.

Um, But, but those are some of the biggest shifts for people is like a lot of people feel they're unworthy, right. Or they have the imposter syndrome of like, who I, who am I, you know, to do this or to do that? Um, a lot of people don't don't realize how much of, how much of. A responsibility they might have if they're having struggles in their marriage.

Right? Yeah. And you're often we're just going to like the place and the blame on the other person. We kind of help them to see like how, how, how big of a part they play in that and give them some, some models and some, some tools to use to, to shift that. Um, so yeah, it's, it's a little bit of everything.

It's a little bit of everything. Yeah, the, the imposter syndrome is, um, surprisingly common. It's really interesting because you use the word simple and. I w I would totally agree. Cause as you're going through these things, you know, you and I, and whoever that are, have you embraced what they'd like to do and got to a certain level of success at what they, what they do.

You know, I'll just speak for myself. Cause I can't speak for other people, but I agree that it's simple, right? It's like, if I want to do a thing, then do the thing. And so a lot of times I have people that I'm either mentoring or talking to, or just having a conversation. They're like, how did you get to where you're at doing that thing?

And I'm like, Simple. I just did the thing. Yeah. Like sometimes it's so hard for me to relay. And what I've realized is that, you know, in my mind originally it's like, What's so hard about it, just do the thing and then, you know, you're overthinking it, but now I realize it's the opposite. It's it's um, I'm the odd ball out where I just do the thing.

And so it's, it's really interesting. Just how, how, and I think some people should find comfort in that. And what I mean by that is you're not alone. Okay. Totally. If you're like, Oh, I I'm hesitant to do the thing, then just own it. Be like, okay, what do I do next to figure out how to do the thing instead of going.

Uh, that sounds really hard. I give up I'm alone. No, no, there's a million other people try and do the thing, like take a staff and absolutely. That's where you're going. Yeah. Um, what's, what's like one of the biggest do you have, I imagine that through your experience with some of the people you work with, they have like real emotional breakthroughs.

Um, is there like a, a standout moment where, um, Like one memory stands out more than the other of somebody accomplishing something or having some sort of breakthrough. Yeah. I mean, we've had, you know, I mean, it's, it's easy. Some of the stuff that will come out of course. Right. And some, some of the things that will come up.

Yeah. Extremely personal stuff too. Right. And. A lot of things will come to the surface that man, now that they've, they've worked so hard to bury and cover up that they almost forgot that even happened or a part of them. Right. Um, you know, we've had people that were like extremely suicidal and just like, you know, just talk about.

You know, when I talked to you on the phone for the first time as we're enrolling them to come into the program, or like just how, how this has saved their life. Right. Because they've, um, because of all the things that we've talked about, but it's so new for them that it's, so it's just really is so true for them.

Like they just, they just believe it and put that on as their identity and that like, almost that there's, there's no way they can ever be something different. And so. And so there's just, there's been quite a few moments where that, where people have just read broke down and, and, uh, see them kind of release or shed that weight.

We have a pretty powerful. Uh, what we call evolution, where people, I have the opportunity to release them physically through like emptying the sandbags and those represent all of the things they've been carrying on. And so that's probably one of the more powerful parts of our immersion experience is that moment.

And so there's many of those that is just like super powerful to see them release it and just like, okay. Verbally, just like yelling out, screaming out, you know, Tish add like, just because it's a significant moment for them. Yeah. That's interesting. Um, with, with you being in coat coaching, I want to ask, like how do, how do people find the right coach?

And the reason I asked that is because it seems like. More than ever. There's coaches that coach coaches about coaching coaches. So how, you know, you have clearly gone through something, how the transformation yourself, and it can bring the real world experience. Other times I see these coaches that are.

You know, 20, and they haven't really lived life and I'm sure they've had their own things and they've learned things and it's not to say that they don't have their own valuable experiences to share, but I, but I don't think they're at the level where they can say, Hey, I've had broad enough experiences to really relay and resonate and communicate properly.

So how do you help our audience understand? How to find the right person and go down the right path to do the healing and the growth or whatever they may need. Yeah. Well, I think it really just comes down to, you want the coach that's going to help you get through the things there that's been that has been through the things that you want them to help you get through right there.

That's what really just stuck out to me again when I first came across that message over five years ago now, um, Like, it was like, he was speaking to me, which is exactly right. And he was trying to do, but that was his point. Like there's, there's hundreds of other guys that said the same thing, man. It felt like he was speaking to me because he was talking about his experiences, his life and what he's been through and it's exactly where I was at.

And so, and, and he's telling me that, Hey, I've done the work I've done the experience. I've helped all these other people do the same thing. I'm like, I can do that for you too. So, um, so yeah, find that right coach, that, that, uh, that has been. Through what you're looking to get through yourself so that you don't have to so that you can get there quicker, right?

So you can avoid some of the pitfalls and, and, you know, you're not gonna avoid all of them, but, but they can help pull you through that faster than you would on your own. I think that's why you would hire a coach to help you see the things you can and to get you to where you want to go quicker. So, and then also just, you know, make sure that that coach.

Resonates with you, the one that you, you know, cause don't just go hire anyone, vet them, you know, look at their track record. Right. Have they produced results for other people? Um, can you, are they real people like yeah. So, you know, listen to your gut. I think that's a big one. You kinda know if someone's real or not.

I think those are all great. Um, No, cause I'm not the right coach for everyone. And, and nor do I want to be. And yeah, I want somebody that's not gonna like match with me. Cause then it's just like, they're going to resent paying the money. I'm going to resent taking the money because you know, there's just, I guess it's a no win for anyone.

So yeah. So do your homework and make sure that it just feels right for you. Yeah. And that they actually have the experiences. Um, they've been where you, where you currently are and, and they have a path to get you out of there. So are you saying the right coach for everyone? I think is a good answer. You know, not being the right coach for everyone.

Um, it sounds like it makes more sense to, if you've got these three things that you want to accomplish, then potentially hire three different coaches that are experts at three different things and, and don't. Look for the guy that says I can solve everybody's problems and I am the coach for everybody.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Um, uh, as, as we can, I want to ask you another one or two questions as we get kind of closer to wrapping up, but, you know, as, as we talked at the beginning, I had mentioned you were kind enough to have me on your podcast. And, and so it's been interesting to see the evolution of your podcast going from ground zero to bringing on some high profile guests.

And I think it's cool how you share, um, You know that experience, people come to me and they say, how do you get these high profile guests? And it's no, that's what we said earlier. You do the thing. So maybe talk about what you've learned in some of the, the, the journey of growing your podcast. And I don't think the listeners need to necessarily take it in the context of go do a podcast.

I think your journey is applicable in many other ways that they can go do their thing. Yeah, well, I mean, I started championship leadership started that podcast in July, I believe of 2018. And I really did start from where I was at. I've always loved Joe Rogan. And so I kinda thought it was cool that he would interview these cool people and get to have conversations with them.

So that was kind of the idea of the format for me. I love leadership and I love talking to people that. Uh, and hearing their stories and you know, how, where they've come from and how they've learned from their experiences and how they lead other people. And so that's, that's where that the theme of the show came from.

And, you know, in the beginning it was one, one show a week. And that was, I was inconsistent. I really was for probably the first, um, three quarters of a year. You know, there were, there were months where I would do consistently once a week, there was a month or two maybe where I didn't have any episodes.

Right. And, uh, and then I just saw like, Was that a seminar actually. And so the guy was talking about how consistency and how he's just showing up every year for the past 10 years and how many episodes he's put out and like all the blog posts. And I'm like, yeah, like, I'm going to do this. I'm going to commit to this.

And so, yeah. So I D I did that. And at first it was just people I knew connections I had, and then I realized, Hey, like, why don't I just send some messages out to people that that would be really cool to have on the show that I'm thinking in my mind, there's no way why would they ever want to be on my show.

Right. And so I just got really intentional about building the show, the audience, asking for reviews to help kind of build it up and, uh, and had nothing. And just like, if there was someone that came to mind, Like, you know, a lot of people say, no, a lot of people don't answer my requests. A lot of people ignore them for months.

And then finally they are like, dude, this guy's serious. He's not going to quit bugging me unless I come on the show. And so then they find the competitor. So, so, um, It's just doing, like you said, doing the thing. And so it got to the point where I was, I was recording so many episodes and now I have a bunch of recording and I was like, man, I gotta start putting out like three a week.

So for the last, probably six months, I've been putting three out a week and I have a bunch of, and, um, it's all because I just made that decision to be like, ah, if I'm going to do this thing, I'm going to get serious about it. I'm going to be intentional and be consistent. And I'm just like, if there's someone I see that I want to have on, I don't care who they are.

It could be the president of the United States. I'm going to ask. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You've had, um, who are some of your more recent, well, what was one of the more recent one? Was it, um, Dino RTS was one. Yeah, Tito Ortiz. That was awesome. Um, he's coming out here. His hasn't released yet, but it will be coming out soon.

Um, Yeah. I've had like some, you know, I had a super bowl champion, Gary Brackett. Um, I've had, uh, Matt Brown. Who's another UFC guy, uh, had general Caroline, Jan Johnson. She's a, she's an F 18, uh, aviator in the Navy. Um, yeah, all kinds of just cool, cool people. Uh, Recently, so, yeah. Yeah. Oh really? Yeah. Yeah.

Funny. Um, Tucker max, that's funny. Cause one of my, my neighbor's last name is max. I guess I can remember names and that's how I remember my neighbor's last name.

um, well, Nate, I appreciate your time. Appreciate jumping on learning from others. I want to give you the chance to, to put out, you know, your contact information or, um, just give you the floor for a minute and say what you want to say. Oh, yeah, you bet. Well, I mean, yeah, hopefully you got something out of this.

Hopefully it helped impact you in some way. Somehow you can find out more about me, my podcast or events, what I'm up to at my website. Nate Bailey Um, if you want a copy of my free audio book, you can get There you go, Nate. Thanks for jumping on. I appreciate it.